The Flotilla Debate 3


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Témoris Grecko “Channel 4 News has learnt 16 people are feared dead following the clashes. Another unconfirmed report puts the toll at 19.
A spokesperson for “Freedom Flotilla” says three people are hurt on another boat, believed to be a joint Greek and Swedish vessel. The captain is reportedly among the injured.”

 

<P>The death toll could be as high as 19 following a raid by Israeli commandos on a Gaza-bound aid ship. <STRONG>Channel 4 News has also been told</STRONG>&nbsp;there have been violent clashes on another vessel in the flotilla.</P>
31 May at 19:13 ·  ·  · Share
Çağatay Sönmez 

c’mon temoris, commandos were protecting themselves from that activists.. cuz activists were carrying big loooong steel sticks.. and they hurt so bad.. that s why they shoot real ammunition.. 

even the way that they re defending themself is f..ing crazy and hilarious!!

01 June at 01:05 ·  · 

Témoris Grecko Yesterday, I asked: “How many imbeciles can you count in the Israeli government?” The Israeli press did it for us: seven. Starting with Prime Minister Netanyahu and MInister of Defence Barak. 

I’m surprised that journalist Yossi Sarid didn’t include Foreign Affairs Minister Lieberman. Maybe because he didn’t have direct authority in an operation like this one.

Sarid concludes: “Stupidity knows no bounds, and it is a ministerial prerogative. And what is boundless is also unfathomable. So the septet will persist in its evil ways, endangering us more than any ship could, for madness will rule us. That gang in Jerusalem will insist on drowning us again and again, for there is no courage to change even after all the disasters.”

 

 

01 June at 17:55

Emiliano Ruiz Parra

Emiliano Ruiz Parra 

Temoris, unfortunately, there’s no stupidity in the Israeli government. There’s is just the arrogant sentiment of impunity which drives them to murder, apartheid and exploitation. They feel strong because they are backed up by the US, and by the hypocritical Western Europe. That’s why the claim for the Palestinian liberation (either in a binational state or in two states) is more compelling than ever.
01 June at 18:04 ·  · 

Çağatay Sönmez

Çağatay Sönmez 

congrats temo!! we must seperate israeli government and israeli ppl!!!
01 June at 18:16 ·  · 

Mari Zuñiga-Chavez

Mari Zuñiga-Chavez 

I don’t think either that it’s stupidity I think that it is evil, cuz I’m sure it was perfectly planned and they knew what they were doing and it is exactly what they wanted to do. They are no stupids they are evil and of course im talking about the ppl involved.
01 June at 19:01 ·  · 

Témoris Grecko

Témoris Grecko 

I do think there is a lot of stupidity in that government, Maria. Let me compare them to George Bush’s neoconservatives: they went to Afghanistan and Iraq thinking they were going to realise their Project for a New American Century, and what they got was to accelerate the United States decline (plus thousands of their own soldiers dead and astronomic spending). They can be evil. But that doesn’t spare them from being stupid.
01 June at 20:17 ·  · 

Témoris Grecko

Témoris Grecko 

Cagatay, yes… that’s a very important point. I’m following the Israeli press and they are really concerned on this and other matters regarding the opression against the Palestinians. Take a look of Gideon Levy’s today’s article: 

“Like in “Mini-Israel,” the park where there is everything, but smaller, Israel embarked yesterday on a mini Operation Cast Lead. Like its larger, losing predecessor, this operation had it all: the usual false claim that is was they who had started it – and not the landing of commandos from helicopters on a ship in open sea, away from Israeli territorial waters. There was the claim that the first act of violence came not from the soldiers, but the rioting activists on Mavi Marmara; that the blockade on Gaza is legal and that the flotilla to its shores is against the law – God knows which law.
Again came the claim of self defense, that “they lynched us” and that all the dead are on their side. Once more the use of violence and excessive and lethal force was in play and once more civilians wound up dead.”

Another paragraph:
“Yesterday’s fiasco could and should have been prevented. This flotilla should have been allowed to pass and the blockade should be brought to an end.”

“Yesterday there was no one on the planet, not a newsman or analyst, except for its conscripted chorus, who could say a good word about the lethal takeover.”
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/operation-mini-cast-lead-1.293417

01 June at 20:22 ·  · 

Témoris Grecko

Témoris Grecko 

Cagatay, yes… that’s a very important point. I’m following the Israeli press and they are really concerned on this and other matters regarding the opression against the Palestinians. Take a look of Gideon Levy’s today’s article: 

“Like in “Mini-Israel,” the park where there is everything, but smaller, Israel embarked yesterday on a mini Operation Cast Lead. Like its larger, losing predecessor, this operation had it all: the usual false claim that is was they who had started it – and not the landing of commandos from helicopters on a ship in open sea, away from Israeli territorial waters. There was the claim that the first act of violence came not from the soldiers, but the rioting activists on Mavi Marmara; that the blockade on Gaza is legal and that the flotilla to its shores is against the law – God knows which law.
Again came the claim of self defense, that “they lynched us” and that all the dead are on their side. Once more the use of violence and excessive and lethal force was in play and once more civilians wound up dead.”

Another paragraph:
“Yesterday’s fiasco could and should have been prevented. This flotilla should have been allowed to pass and the blockade should be brought to an end.”

“Yesterday there was no one on the planet, not a newsman or analyst, except for its conscripted chorus, who could say a good word about the lethal takeover.”
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/operation-mini-cast-lead-1.293417

01 June at 20:22 ·  · 

Témoris Grecko

Témoris Grecko 

Emiliano, hola! Same answer!
01 June at 20:33 ·  · 

Waleed Serhan

Waleed Serhan 

I think idoits is a very small word in this situation, probably sounds funny but they are more accurately War Criminals
01 June at 20:59 ·  · 

Guadalupe Moreno Corzo

Guadalupe Moreno Corzo 

De acuerdo. Que sean malos no quiere decir que no hay estupidez desbordada. Dale poder a un cretino y qué tienes. Un beso, querido Témoris.
01 June at 21:02 ·  · 

Témoris Grecko

Témoris Grecko 

Well, not exactly, Waleed. They’d like to portray it as a war situation in which their soldiers were defending their own soil against an equally dangerous force. But it was a peacetime situation, in international waters, and they were facing civilians, most of them unarmed and only a few armed with slingshots. 

Un besote, querida Lupita!

01 June at 22:25 ·  · 

Mari Zuñiga-Chavez

Mari Zuñiga-Chavez 

Got it Temoris and I have to say that after the comparison I totally agree!
01 June at 22:48 ·  · 

Matan Bar

Matan Bar 

agree with every word sarid says…
02 June at 01:57 ·  · 

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